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Name: Visionary | Country
of residence: DU | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (22:02)
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| Thanks Bro Mthunzi, Sorry, I meant '...although I have not had time to blog'. You nonetheless got what I had wanted to say. Yes, whatever is born of God overcomes the world. Maranatha!
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Name: Mthunzi | Country
of residence: Land of Kings | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (19:29)
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| Totally irrisponsible, might sound irrational.
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Name: wamz | Country
of residence: zambia | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (17:01)
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| It is totally irresponsible of our government to commit the nation on borrowing for short term projects. Current leaders must think about the future of the children and not to take uadvantage of being in power and making all the selfish decisions.
I hope one good Zambian one day will lead us wihout being selfish.
Most of the hospitals are lacking facilities and people decide to waste money on these useless vehicles. Which road in Zambia are these vehicles going to use. It is total nonsense.
I share the same sentiment above by a post comentetor over the mobile clinics/hospitals.
Zambia please hear me..... we have the power to determine and create a zambia we want. In our own minds we even know the people who we can put in power to create the zambia we need.
Look at the following list, some of these are people whose performance we have actually tracked and most of you will agree with me that yes they can be trusted with a vision of selflessly changing zambia.
Celeb Fundanga, Elijah Chipimo Jr, Kapembwa simbao, Mutati felix, sylvia masebo, Dambisa moyo, Muna ndulo, mundia sikatana, you can also add to this list, im sure you know more people than me that can fit into the kind of description am portraying here.
Forget sata, forget Rupiya or HH all these dont even have cause to lead zambia.
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Name: Mthunzi | Country
of residence: Land of Kings | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (16:34)
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| Brother visionary,
Its good to hear from you after a long while. Indeed christ is the substance and our joy comes from realising that we are born of God and that whatever is born of God, overcomes the world.
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Name: Visionary | Country
of residence: DU | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (14:51)
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| Brothers Mthunzi, Robby & others, Am around too, although I've had time to blog. Jesus is Lord! Continue to keep the faith & fire of the Holy Ghost. We're in dark evil times of great unbelief. Blessings.
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Name: Me | Country
of residence: Here | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (08:08)
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| thunzi, i had told u to shut up, didn't i? you talkative little mother f- ka u!
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Name: Mthunzi | Country
of residence: Land of Kings | Written: Saturday, 31 July 2010 (07:27)
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| Bro Robby, 28939.
Thanks.
Its strange how this forum has become silent. You could be on a trip but there would still be activity. The question indeed is where are the others? Even if we exclude the sata and HH people, who might have lost hope because of the challenges the pact is facing, we would still have the site full of people. I will try to stick around just in case.
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Name: Sober | Country
of residence: Zambia | Written: Friday, 30 July 2010 (22:34)
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| Angel my dear,
I understand your point completely. I think if we were to compare and contrast the two men (Jesus-Muhammad) we can who can quantify which man committed more acts of violence than the other. The only grey area perhaps would be the fact that Muhammad's adventures were relatively well documented from birth to death. Where as Jesus' life from age 12 to 30 years is shrouded in mystery.
But my biggest contention is that it really doesn't matter what acts of violence was committed personally by the founders. Without his followers, Christianity would have been dead before t began. So the followers make all the difference. And as we know the followers of Jesus killed mercilessly over these many centuries.
Again, I am not defending the acts of violence by anyone. I am saying if we take the history of these two religions in their totality, I find very little difference as far as violence. I think it is even fair to say that without violence, Christianity would never have achieved it's predominance status it has today. The history I have read, many convents did not do so willingly. You just have to see how Catholicism spread in the Americas. It was brutal. So if we limit our analysis of Christianity to the man himself (Jesus) I don't think we are doing justice to the argument. Because Jesus without his followers of many centuries would never have achieved what Christianity is today.
Let's continue the discussion later. My tummy is rumbling now I think like Jesus, I am going to have me some fish for lunch. Actually that's only half a joke. I "discovered" this incredible fish-n-chips place. It's cheap and am hooked.
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Name: Angel | Country
of residence: USA | Written: Friday, 30 July 2010 (19:16)
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| My friend Sober,
It would take me a long time to explain the differences in the settings and thus the interpretations of the various verses you have quoted. The Deuteronomy verse speaks to Israel as a nation, while the Luke verse is part of a parable. Analysis of these verses is different based on context and type. Anyway, my point is that there can be misinterpretations of the scriptures including the Islamic ones.
However, please look closely at the acts of the founders of these religious orders. Jesus Christ was a humble man who taught and practiced love. He was reviled and murdered without so much as raising his voice to "hit" back. His true followers are those that love like him. On the other hand, Muhammad the prophet raised an army and subjugated the Arabian peninsula by shedding blood in order for his message to go out. This is the core of my argument, my dear Sober. I have nothing against criticizing those who do evil in the name of religion...any religion, but I am not in agreement that Christianity and Islam teach the same thing or even share a similar philosophical outlook. Islam by its nature foments violence and that is fundamentally different from what it purports to be. Christianity, on the other hand, condemns violence.
I might agree with some of what Ann Rice has said, there are many so-called Christians whose interpretations of the scriptures does not represent Jesus Christ and his love. This is especially true when religion is mixed with politics as is done in Islamic lands.
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Name: Sober | Country
of residence: Zambia | Written: Friday, 30 July 2010 (18:17)
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| Angel my dearest,
Another postscript to the Religious discussion. And maybe you don't give a damn at all. That's OK. I have known of Anne Rice for a few years now. She has done and said some things that I admire her for. Below in an excerpt of "BREAKING NEWS" posted to the web July 30, 2010.
I just thought it was an interesting bit of news for the day. Especially the bit about her views on Christ vs Christianity.
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Legendary author Anne Rice has announced that she’s quitting Christianity.
The “Interview with a Vampire” author, who wrote a book about her spirituality titled "Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession" in 2008, said Wednesday that she refuses to be “anti-gay,” “anti-feminist," “anti-science” and “anti-Democrat.”
Rice wrote, “For those who care, and I understand if you don't: Today I quit being a Christian ... It's simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else.”
Rice then added another post explaining her decision on Thursday:
“My faith in Christ is central to my life. My conversion from a pessimistic atheist lost in a world I didn't understand, to an optimistic believer in a universe created and sustained by a loving God is crucial to me," Rice wrote. "But following Christ does not mean following His followers. Christ is infinitely more important than Christianity and always will be, no matter what Christianity is, has been or might become.”
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